hello, everyone. a special guest tonight. you will see who in a moment. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." 36 days before election day. donald trump finds himself addressing a new controversy. this time over his taxes. right now the republican nominee is addressing a crowd in colorado. moments ago, he responded to a "new york times" report that alleges he might have legally avoided paying any federal income tax for 18 years. >> the unfairness of the tax laws is unbelievable.

it's something i have been talking about for a long time. despite, frankly, being a big beneficiary of the laws. but i'm working for you now. i'm not working for trump. as a businessman and real estate developer, i have legally used the tax laws to my benefit. and to the benefit of my company, my investors and my employees. i mean, honestly, i have brilliantly -- i have brilliantly used those laws. >> his opponent, of course, pounced on "the new york times" report. >> trump represents the same rigged system that he claims he is going to change. taking from america with both hands and leaving the rest of us with the bill. what kind of genius loses a billion dollars in a fiscal year? this is trump to a t. he abuses his power, games the system, puts his own interests

ahead of the country's. it's trump first and everyone else last. >> the trump team sees it as a huge positive for the candidate. >> the reality is, he is a genius. what he did was he took advantage of something that could save his enterprise. and he did something we admire in america, he came back. the art of the deal is all about that. he talks about it. so does steve jobs. so did winston churchill. i would rather have a genius running this country. >> there's no one that has shown more genius than moving around the tax codes. this is a guy who when businesses went out of businesses, he fought and clawed back to build another fortune to create tens of thousands of more jobs. and this is actually a very, very good story for donald trump. >> more importantly, what does bill o'reilly think? he is our special guest today.

he is going to tell us. did you hear he has a new best selling book out called "killing the rising sun"? we will talk to him about t. first, let's pick his brain on politics. what do you think about trump taxes? is it something that should resonate? do you think it will for people to say they don't want to vote for this guy because he got a break and lost money and played the tax code? >> the trump supporters are still going to support him. that's not going to erode their support of him. the people who loath him are going to loath him more. they will say, he is a rich fat cat and everything that we don't like. the ones in the middle is interesting. i took advantage of a legal situation. then you have to ask yourself, if i were trump and i had casinos losing a billion dollars, would i take the writeoff? yes, i would. i would.

i think 95% of business people would take the writeoff. what are you going to say, no, because my enterprises went south? doesn't make any sense. most importants a americans are understand what he did was what anybody would do. he wasn't a politician. he was a businessman then. he has to sell it now. it was pretty shrewd what did he in colorado by saying, look, i know that this isn't right. if i get elected, i will fix it. i will make it not this way. might be able to get away with that. he has to sell it hard. >> take us through kind of the tax issue. he said -- they keep emphasizing the talking point, the team and surrogates, saying what he did was legal. he took advantage of the tax code as it was written. >> totally legal. i'm not sure it was genius. it's tax code. that's what any good accountant will tell you to do. what likely happened was -- the casinos were probably losing money for years. he took the loss in '95.

in the prior years, he didn't take the loss. he probably showed income. he paid tax on that. what do you do with a $900 million loss? you roll it forward like anyone else will do. i will give you the best example i could find. i did homework. warren buffet, the hero of the left, including the clintons, lost $873 million in 2014 in a company called energy futures holding corps. i would be willing to bet a lot of money that warren buffett is using the same tax code that donald trump used in 1995 to take that loss, roll the loss forward against profits going forward or profits in the same year going forward, because that's what you do as a good businessman. >> let's talk about the message here. you see surrogates going out. you saw chris christie, rudy giuliani saying, this is a guy who wants to make great again. he knows how to make a comeback. >> they are on their game, their conference call. i don't know they knew it was

coming. they were saying the same thing. i have to say, i think if they asked me to say he was a genius, i would have said jump in a lake. i think he does have a good point if he believes it, that he wants to change the tax code so it doesn't benefit him. this is the first time that he is making this. >> i can interrupt? >> of course. >> this isn't a pro-trump statement. i'm neutral on this thing. i'm trying to cover it as fairly as i can. isn't a genius when you are down to the nub and you are losing $916 million, isn't it genius when you turn it around and then become one of the most wealthy individuals on the face of the earth? >> i think you could -- i'm not making anti-trump statement by saying what i'm going to say in response to that which is, you can say that, fine, you took advantage of the laws. as eric said, it might not be

genius, it's legal. as an american, you can say, is this right overall? on the left, it's almost treasonous to not pay your fair share. >> would you ascribe him genius for turning around a company on the verge of extinction? >> no. i'm not a businessman. but i'm -- >> it's a provocative question. >> okay. but i'm saying, if you are running for president of the united states, this is a story he has known about for all of his adult life. they could have got this out in may. they waited until october 3. it comes in the days after he is perceived to have lost first debate. the first thing is, he is a genius? i think the talking point could have been better if he had been talking about reforming the tax code before october 3. >> i mean, the bad news is trump lost his shirt in the '90s. the good news, it was made in china. >> look at o'reilly's face. >> it's the same.

he is mount rushmore without the charm. >> georthe fact is, you do not taxes on a loss. that's how long the story should last. you do not pay taxes on a loss, whether it's moral or immoral. the thing i find most interesting is i like -- this is what i find to be genius. trump wants to change the system because -- to stop people like trump. he is like the guy -- if you want to build a great safe, you hire a safecracker. >> absolutely. >> that's the argument he is using. someone should have written that line for him. >> here is the best line that you missed. he goes, i was working for my company then, now i'm not, i'm working for you. look, i understand the vis rcer reaction people will have. trump will have to sell it hard sunday night. going to have to sell it hard. cooper will come at him. hillary will come at him.

they will say, you are a dunderhead. if he reacts emotionally, he will lose. he will have to jack webb it. j? you knew him? >> i thought he was -- trying to figure out how i got home. >> just the facts. >> what do you think? is this something that is a big win for hillary, that something that might stick? >> go back a week to the debate. a bad showing. then the incident with the miss universe, right? he was terrible and tweeting in the middle of the night. now this. it has been a tough week. as a result, you have republicans in washington who are just in a tizzy over what is going on with donald trump? he is off message. everything has unravelled. they are hoping she doesn't get thrown under the bus. the campaign feels like it's out of control. he is behaving erratically. this idea that he is a genius was so much spin, so ridiculous.

if he was -- he is such a genius as both of my colleagues have said, he would have put this out a long time ago and said this is a fact. >> pre-empt it? >> right. but let me finish. we have a guy here who borrowed billions of dollars. what a brilliant businessman? i'm a brilliant businessman. let me work for you. he borrowed $3 billion. he then goes and loses almost another billion dollars. it could have been creditors' money. he says the mill teitary -- he not supporting the military, cops, school kids. i think this is terrible. >> what do you mean? >> i'm paying taxes. >> you think this man has not paid taxes? he doesn't pay taxes or hasn't paid taxes? >> i don't know about hasn't for all time. >> he pays the minimum amount of taxes he legally can and possibly should pay.

but that is -- for to you say -- >> you shifted. you said he did the rye thiight. >> of course he did. >> he rebuilt. he's a genius? he relies on money he got from his daddy and little ritchie rich screwed up and lost daddy's money. >> if you take away the ability to write off a business loss, you are wilbl bury small business. >> as you pointed out, what he did was legal. >> of course it is. >> what about -- you don't pay taxes on a -- >> here is the distinction. trump -- what trump was trying to hide was embarrassing but not illegal. he hid it because it was embarrassing, not illegal. what hillary shields is a mishandling of classified information, not necessarily embarrassing but illegal. >> it wasn't illegal. >> it is. >> it's not. fbi -- we know that that's not illegal. >> what she did, the fbi --

>> she knew she was breaking the law. >> the fbi said she didn't do it on purpose. >> it wasn't illegal. >> there was no intent. >> it was not illegal. >> that was their interpretation. but it is illegal to put out classified information. >> he's not a good businessman. >> but that's your opinion. >> it's my opinion. if i lost that -- if you said, i want to invest my wealth with you, bill o'reilly's money and i lost that, would you be livid. >> if you had the juan jet, i would say, look at the juan jet. and he learned his lesson. now he is making money for everyone. >> i have a juan jet. is it -- >> that's one hot tub i would skip. >> billionaires lose money. is it impossible -- with a casino, isn't it hard to lose money? >> no. >> 18 other casinos. >> they are down to three.

15 -- >> mo green was skimming all the money off the top. >> we have to go. >> this business loss, being able to write that off, is the essence of american business right there. it allows mom and pop to go on the corner and open up. if they lose, they to write it off and try again. if you take that away, we're toast. >> those are the people that if they have a loss -- that's why i think this is -- he had the wrong reaction to this. the bodega guy, they will worry for the rest of their lives if they don't pay the taxes, the irs will come after them. they don't have lawyers and accountants to take advantage of the laws. aempathy wouldn't hurt. i'm so brilliant because did i it. i followed the law and i want to make the laws better so it can help -- >> that's what -- >> it would be helpful if it did that. if you want it to help, it would be something that would take

more money from rich people and put it into the coffers. maybe we don't think that's a good idea. that would be a better message at this point. >> this is good. is it because he was here? >> it was. >> of course it was. >> you super size the five. stay right there. if you could, please. when we come back, we will talk to bill again about the newest installment in his series "killing the rising sun." and his reaction to an aud tiote of hillary clinton. stay with us. you push

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we're back now with bill o'reilly, host of "the factor." taking more deplorable shots at trump supporters. >> i think a lot of the people that stand by donald trump are deplorable. and the things they say are deplorable. >> supporters of bernie sanders that clinton is trying to win over might find this deplorable.

listen to this audio of the secretary at a fund-raiser in february. >> children of the great recession, and they are living in their parents' basement. >> after hearing that, trump tweeted, bernie should pull his endorsement after she deceived him and then attacked him and his supporters. is this a big deal? >> no. she's absolutely right. >> thank you. >> she's right. if you are a college educated younger person and you can't get a good job, then you want to overthrow the system. come to your house and take your furniture. >> they are making hay out -- >> i didn't see hay there. i will tell what you she said

was absolutely 100% true. >> i'm tired of people going after people in the basement. i have lived in basements almost all my life. they are not bad. i agree, it was a realistic assessment of the current state of malaise among young people who are stuck on a rung and they can't get up. didn't find it insulting. >> there's a record number of millennials -- it started to go down but a record number have gone back to live with parents. what trump could have done is say the reason that they are in that position is because of the obama economy. i alone can fix it. >> that's good. that's good. >> i think -- look, he -- >> any hay there? >> he had to go after it. he is going to make something of it. it's an aggressive call. drop crooked hillary. come with my team because we have more in common. i want to help you make something of your life. >> is miss machado living in her parents' basement? >> i wouldn't say so.

>> it would be wrong to draw -- would it be wrong to do that? >> he just got over that story. you might want to leave it alone. >> nothing to see here. >> what if she is? >> we don't know where she is. >> i mean, the biggest testimonial is bernie sanders. he said she was absolutely right. and said you know what? the problem here is young people have legitimately had their dreams thwarted by the economy and it they are struggling. to call it straight -- >> here comes donald trump desperate. nails on the chalkboard. hillary did something wrong. >> what if romney said this, mccain or trump had said this? we're actually being diplomatic and nice and sensible. >> we're being honest. >> the reverse of us on msnbc and mccain or trump or romney, they would destroy them. we happen to --

>> we don't want to get down to that level. >> what we're all missing is that all millennials should live in bernie sanders' basement. he has three basements. >> can we turn the topic to your new book? >> yes. >> i heard -- bernie told me -- how many sold so far? >> we have done extraordinarily well the first three weeks out. we really appreciate you. >> you are number one on all -- >> all the lists. now bruce springsteen's book -- if you buy springsteen's book -- i'm giving him a plug -- you get his album. >> the book costs more without the album. >> here is what i'm going to do. i'm going to cut another album. i'm going to put it in "killing the rising sun" to compete. >> i found it very interesting -- >> the five living presidents and asked would they have made the same decision regarding

hiroshima. >> when we write the killing books we try to do stuff that's not been done before. the information that you read in the book, you haven't seen most of it anywhere. so i wrote letters -- personal letters to five living presidents. would you have supported truman? what would you have done? three of them reported back. bush the younger, bush the elder who is very on it on the thinking process. and jimmy carter. they all agreed that they would have dropped the atom bomb. obama did not -- president obama did not, wouldn't do it. i believe -- >> wouldn't respond? >> he didn't respond. i believe speculation only, could be wrong, he would not have done it? bill clinton didn't respond because i don't think he wanted to get drawn into controversy with his wife running for president. >> smart. >> we posted the three letters in the book as well as in a letter in my collection of harry truman saying why he fired macarthur ultimately, which is a fascinating letter, too.

"killing the rising sun" is doing great. i think people would enjoy it. >> can i ask you something? i wondered if you could talk about what you think is the transformative issue that allowed the bush 43 and the prime minister of japan on 9/11 -- that was the first phone call that 43 got was from him. how is it that the fathers of those two men who fought against each other in world war ii end up in a short period of time historically end up being allies in the war on terror? >> because the united states treated japan after the war with kindness. we didn't brutalize them. we could have. we even allowed he eed the empe keep his status. my father was in the occupation. i know firsthand that the u.s. troops despite taking horrendous casualties -- we show you that in "rising sun." japanese didn't take much prisoners.

the ones they did, they brutalized. they would behead people in front of americans and british. the vengeance that the united states could have wreaked on japan never happened. we came in. we occupied the country. we rebuilt the country kaepernick. we rebuilt it with our money so japan now is a very affluent nation, a free nation and it benefits fr benefits from us even though we had the right to go in there and brutalize them. >> we exercised restraint. >> that's why america is a noble nation. that's why i write these books. >> sure. i'm fascinated by robert oppenheimer who developed the bomb. >> crazy guy. i went to los alamos. it's a little town outside of santa fe. he and the physicists were there. five packs of cigarettes a day, all smoking. never showered. you can imagine this. he was an idol. they idolized him.

he was obsessed with developing the a-bomb because hitler was trying to do the same thing. he wanted to get it before the germans. he wanted to drop it on berlin. he was furious that they didn't get it in time to drop it on the fu furor in germany. they test the bomb. don't tell anybody. radio stations are going, i think there was an earthquake. nobody knew. everything was rattling because this was an above-ground nuclear test. all of that we have in the book in micro-detail. oppen

oppenheim was a lady's man. >> was he smoking while he was building the bomb? >> the only guy who smoked more was dwight easisenhower. you can read that and more in the book. >> it's great having you back. pick up a copy of "killing the riedz rising sun." up next, you know who sounded like trump in the 1990s? bill clinton. that interesting flashback tape just ahead.

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and mentioned deportation? what kind of monster is trump? >> all americans, not only in the states most heavily affected but in every place in this country are disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. the jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. the public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. that's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more, by hirin a record number of new border guards, deporting twice as many criminal aliens, by cracking down on illegal hire. the budget, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal a illegal aliens to identify them as recommended by the commission headed by former congresswoman barbara jordan. we are a nation of immigrants. but we are also a nation of

laws. it's wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years. and we must do more to stop it. >> i'm sorry. that wasn't trump, not at all. that footage reveals that since the -- since then, the goalposts on immigration have moved so far to the left, they are outside the stadium. since bill clinton said that, times have changed. 9/11, anyone? today is not yesterday. liberals love progress. if you really are a fan of progress, a fan of evolution, a fan of science, you have to see the world for what it has become now and apply that reality to action. just like lizards, todays and finches, terrorism has evolved. 2016 is not 1916 or 1996. as a virus infects millions who wish to take all of us kicking and screaming to afterlife, it

means the words of an old democrat are truer more now than ever. it's it concerns a belief that rejects speakrejec rejects violence. one person can kill hundreds of thousands of people with technology available to all of us, we see this is not about mexico at all. it's about marmartyrdom. we must be sober about our security. bill clinton was close but no cigar. >> you know what? did he say work face? >> in the budget, he will try to do more to speed deportation of illegal aliens, to better identify illegal aliens in the work face -- >> you know what, illegal aliens in the work face?

>> i'm recovering from the last comment. this is clever. why isn't this being used? and utilized in the right way to say look at the comparison. he is not running against bill but kind of because it's a two-for with hillary and bill, two for the price of one. they will make you pay three type times higher the price. that's the clinton way. this is a good opportunity to say, this is who built that. bill clinton, look at his policies. do you want more of the same of bill clinton, more barack obama, more hillary clinton who had 30 years to be able to come forward with good ideas to move the country and economy forward and to have good ideas about immigration? >> when you listen to him, he sounds like a -- to the right of republican. >> at the time, it was a conservative democrat. one of the things that hillary clinton said over the weekend was -- there was a recording where she said that there's no center left and that maybe she will have to figure out how to occupy the center. that for her is a danger,

because politically, the left -- the worry they have about her is she's not really as liberal as she says she is. they think she's more like bill. she would say, i'm not like that. she's trying to distance herself from him and obama. >> when i listen to obama, i think i counted 17 microaggressions. >> it was a while ago. what has changed -- will lump them together on immigration. you pointed that out. the criminal justice reform. they evolved on that as well. >> super predators. >> wall street. they used to be strong on immigration, super strong on crime and soft on wall street, they have flipped those. soft on immigration now, soft on crime reform and strong on wall street, i guess. >> juan, your party has changed for the better or for the worse. you have ten seconds. >> i think it's better. types have changes.

>> he is not calling immigrants rapists and murderers. >> at least not in public. >> we don't know what he is doing in private. >> he said, with a hat do they about at the breakfast table? >> you go back and look at ronald reagan passing immigration reform in the '80s. you get to the point you have a growing economy. you have immigrants coming across the southern border. you have people overstaying visas. people coming for work, typically hard -- putting people out of work. that's not the case. i don't know -- the farmers in america are saying we need more people. we need people to do these jobs. the factory people who are going into factories. we do not have an influx of immigrants at this moment. we have an out migration, because the economy isn't what it used to be. >> my point is that now the border has a problem for a different reason, it's terror. that's what i'm saying. he is saying the right thing,

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it's secretary hillary clinton. >> i'm better than ever. let's do this. >> i won the debate. i stayed calm like i promised. and it is over. good night, hofstra. >> donald, donald, there's still 88 minutes left. it's a 90-minute debate. >> my microphone is broken. >> "saturday night live" returned just in time to provide comic relief on the first

presidential debate. alec baldwin helped them achieve their highest ratings since 2008. here is more from the season opener. >> this man is clearly unfit to be commander in chief. >> wrong. >> he is a bully. >> shut up. >> the started the birther movement. >> you did. >> he hasn't released his tax returns which means he is either not that rich. >> wrong. >> not that charitable. >> wrong. >> or he has never paid taxed in his life. >> warmer. >> this has been an illuminating debate. now it's time for our -- >> alicia machado. >> i'm sorry. who is alicia machado. >> thank you for bringing that up, lester. >> where did you find that? >> donald trump called her miss piggy. >> how do you know this? >> and miss housekeeping. >> that's pretty funny. >> you stayed up. did you love it?

>> yes. i was excited to watch it. i thought i'alec baldwin was gog to do a good job. he is funny, talented, knows trump. i thought he did a great job. kate was good as well. they kind of pushed a few things. i liked the family feud one. >> that was funny. >> why aren't we on -- >> i thought of the same thing. big numbers. >> yeah. awesome cold open. i love that. i'alec baldwin was the best tru of them all. he nailed it, all the idiosyncrasies. i was happy to see, they kept it above -- i don't think they dug deep into the politics. they went into the visceral level, made fun of both of them, appearances. >> pretty even. >> i didn't find it overly political. i enjoyed it. >> great comedic timing. >> you didn't love it? >> okay. lester holt was great.

we can't forget that. in my opinion, a balance of time isn't the same as a balance in treatment. when you watch this, donald trump played a character and she played a conduit for the audience watching the character. she just would sit there and laugh at what he was doing. she was actually acting as the chorus in a shakespearean play. look at this character. isn't he ridiculous? i'm going to win. even though there was a balance in time, there wasn't a balance in treatment. they have to be careful. this is how the new right starts. the more you ridicule o direction, you create the pendulum swing. that's what you are seeing is a response to 30 or 40 years of ridicule of the right. it wasn't that bad. >> in parody, you highlight the obvious. you exaggerate the obvious. >> they did it for trump. but i don't think they did it it for her. >> because she's not funny or interesting. sg >> i thought it was lacking in

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when people make the mistake of under estimating me, that's when they are really in for their biggest surprise. i knew that i would make a comeback without question. i never had a doubt in my mind. and again, i don't know -- i don't even think of it as a comeback. we had tough periods, good periods, tough periods. we knew just that things were going to be just fine. but that is why i'm here today.

>> that was donald trump a short while ago addressing the controversy over his taxes. he may not have paid federal income taxes for nearly two decades. trump is trying to use the story to tout business acumen. is that credible? >> well, look, he has to spin the story. why not? i'm a guy who made a billion dollars, lost money and found a way to make it back again. it goes hand in hand with his make america great again theme. i'm a guy who knows how to get things done. i know tax laws and business and how it works. i'm not working for myself, i'm working for you, the american people. it's the right messaging. but then, take it a step further, what dana said, how he could -- >> how does this play with working man in america? he may be the great disrupter. is this a guy who didn't pay taxes? >> i think i go on the counter offensive and say, "new york

times" i will sue you and sue who leaked that information. it's illegal. you are not allowed to take someone's private tax returns and share it. i think -- i thought the judge said if you knowingly do this as "new york times" did and public it, you could be on the hook. i would go after them. >> you are okay with looking private stuff. i don't get it. >> it's the point about printing it. >> you don't think those people print anything from what's his face, snowden? >> i don't know. >> i don't know either. i think it's hypocritical. i'm against all leaking, to pea on the record. wear an adult diaper. >> did you say to pee on the record? >> it's my new show. >> where does this go? >> i think tomorrow night in the vice-presidential debate, mike pence will have to answer and tim kaine will be on the offensive and neither are

personally responsibility. i think -- this is good tax policy at work, there is that school of thought. there's the thought that you need risk takers in america. you need people who are going to be willing to try to start a business. that's what he did. he took advantage or he -- used the laws appropriately, legally. i do think, however, that because he tweeted a couple years ago that only half of america pays income taxes and that's not right, that's not fair, well, okay, if you are one of them -- he gets himself caught up a little bit in his previous positions. >> i gotta say this. the language of the story is odd. they keep framing it as co-have avoided taxes for nearly two decades. they don't have anything. that's what i mean. >> a tax expert to guesstimate if -- >> my problem is, i think he will have to put out something more now. there will be -- >> unless they have something. >> should have done it in may. >> one more thing coming next.

time for one more thing. >> baseball season, the regular season, ended this weekend. we had some touching farewell moments. former president jimmy carter's wife, an appearance at the braves game during the last game at turner field. next up, legendary sign-off from 67 years in the booth, 9 thousand games, hall of fame announcer vin sculley saying good bye.

>> you and i have been friends for a long time. but i know in my heart i have always needed you more than you have ever needed me. i will miss our time together more than i can say. >> very nice. >> two weeks ago on facebook friday, we were asked what inanimate object did you have as a child that you would like to have now? my illustrated children's bible. a new york city man watched the show and he sent me his family's bible. this was his children's bible as a kid. he used it to teach his children. he wants me to have it as a gift from his family to me. i thought that was so kind. thank you so much. >> he is my new favorite person. >> isn't that neat? >> to the future. this is a bit freaky. toyota has a talking robot to keep you company. check it out. while you are driving, this guy will be next to you and help make your life richer as you are

driving. he will get to know you and then at the end he will suck the life out of you as they take over the universe. the first step in robot dominance, adorable robots. >> can you go in the carpool lane with that? >> maybe. >> i was waiting for video. should we do this? very quickly. the person who won the first debate, this is gallop polling, romney, obama, carry, gore, clip ton, dukakis, mondale, 75% of the time if you win the first debate, you are not elected president. >> true. >> we did that on the podcast. >> another heartbreaking news. kardashians. did anybody hear about this, kim kardashian was robbed at gun point by men dressed as police officers? we don't know where her bodyguard was. some people say with kloe out on

the town. it looked like it was an inside job. kanye was doing a concert and he stopped. she begged them to let her live and said she had babies at home and they did. a lot of conspiracy theories about it. you won't hear that here. we are coming to you live from longwood university in virginia, site of tomorrow night's vice-presidential debate. about an hour and a half outside of richmond plays host to tim kaine and indiana governor mike pence. it's their first and last chance to take top billing, toe to toe, defending the top of their party's ticket while trying to make their own mark. good evening. we will talk more about this vp nominee matchup a bit later. there is news tonight on the top of the tickets. we coverage of the latest of the 2016 race. mike emanuel is with the clinton campaign in ohio where the democrat nominee is being